Hey guys, I'm looking at setting up some grid-tie systems soon, and I need the 101 on setup and getting them functioning properly. Are there some good resources you could point me to so I can educate myself on the subject? Thanks.
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Grid Tie used to be as simple as it gets. But now new codes have complicated it some in different areas.
Mount the panels on something
Wire them to a disconnect switch
Wire the switch to the GT inverter
Wire the inverter to your electrical panel. (may need to be upgraded)
Depending on permit requirements in your city, you can buy parts, get roof load calculations signed by engineer, and install and wire yourself. Or you may need lic electrician to do the wiring.
Or you may go the micro-inverter route, and put the electronics up with the panels.Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
|| Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
|| VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A
solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
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Grid Tie used to be as simple as it gets. But now new codes have complicated it some in different areas.
Mount the panels on something
Wire them to a disconnect switch
Wire the switch to the GT inverter
Wire the inverter to your electrical panel. (may need to be upgraded)
Depending on permit requirements in your city, you can buy parts, get roof load calculations signed by engineer, and install and wire yourself. Or you may need lic electrician to do the wiring.
Or you may go the micro-inverter route, and put the electronics up with the panels.Comment
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That does sound pretty straightforward....what is the purpose of the disconnect switch?3680W - FLEXmax 80 - FX3048T - 8x L16P-AC 435AhComment
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Short answer - code requirement. More obvious answer: The on/off switch for the sun is inaccessible to all except Montgomery Burns. If you, or anyone else, needs to service the inverter during the day, you'll need a way to disconnect the DC voltage generated by the panels.CS6P-260P/SE3000 - http://tiny.cc/ed5ozxComment
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Do not write below this line.Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
|| Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
|| VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A
solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-ListerComment
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It may be quite obvious and just common sense to all of you who have been dealing with this stuff for years...but there is no need to mock me.
Thank you sensij, your answer was quite helpful3680W - FLEXmax 80 - FX3048T - 8x L16P-AC 435AhComment
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The problem in the modern world, is there is too much mollycoddling going on, and children are so cocooned and protected, they have never experienced a hammer, let alone hitting their thumb with it. I'm an old fart and take the basic safety stuff as a given.
batteries not included.Powerfab top of pole PV mount (2) | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
|| Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
|| VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A
solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-ListerComment
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I am glad to be 69 and sorry for my kids that they have to tolerate the present situation which will no doubt only get softer, lazier and always be looking for more freebies.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Comment
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Not just in solar but life in general - the "everyone gets a ribbon" generation with little or no discipline is hard to take at times.
I am glad to be 69 and sorry for my kids that they have to tolerate the present situation which will no doubt only get softer, lazier and always be looking for more freebies.Comment
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At the risk of further humiliating myself...I just would like some input on this subject one more time. I was awarded the contract to install this 20KW 440V 3ph grid-tie inverter. Based on those spec, the previous advice still stands, correct? And, I'm not talking about all the silliness, I'm referring to the technical advice
Each panel is a 60-cell 35V 250W configuration, the inverter is rated for DC input of 620V with max open circuit voltage of 850V. "Range of MPPT Voltage" is 200-820V. I'm planning to run either:
- four 15 panel strings. DC power should be sitting at about 525V and up to 28.5A
- three 20 panel strings. DC power should be sitting at about 700V and up to 21.5A
Either option should be OK for running 8ga wiring to the inverter (about 200ft round trip) with under 1% loss.
The inverter will then be wired into the warehouse 3ph mains at 440V AC. I'll have a disconnect on the DC side. The inverter will handle up to 850V open circuit voltage, rated DC voltage is 620V.3680W - FLEXmax 80 - FX3048T - 8x L16P-AC 435AhComment
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