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  • Teddybear154
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 7

    Roof Leaking around solar panel

    Hi I'm hoping some one can give me some advice. I live in a fairly new build house. House was built 8 years ago. A hot water solar system was installed when house was built. There is a solar panel on roof and it looks like it's the type built in to roof it's not sitting on top of tiles or any thing as far as I can see.

    last winter roof started leaking around solar panel.
    I contacted company who built house as house and roof are still under guarantee.

    They sent some one out back in January to try and fix. They said flashing around solar panel has gone and needs replacing. He put some sealent around as a temporary fix.

    They were meant to send some one back out to fix properly but have not. Ive been in a fight with them since to get fixed as is still leaking bad.

    They have finally agreed to come back next weekw and fix properly and fix all damage caused.
    ​​​​​
    my question is to replace flashing around solar panel what will this entail. Will solar panel need to be removed. Will scaffolding likely be needed for this job. Just want to know what to expect.

    Any advice much appreciated

    Thanks in advance




  • ButchDeal
    Solar Fanatic
    • Apr 2014
    • 3802

    #2
    This does not sound like a normal install. can you send us some photos?
    There shouldn't be any flashing around the PV modules. it is flashed at the mounts below the rails.
    And flashing does not wear out quickly (thats kind of the point of flashing).
    OutBack FP1 w/ CS6P-250P http://bit.ly/1Sg5VNH

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    • Ampster
      Solar Fanatic
      • Jun 2017
      • 3650

      #3
      The two hot water solar panels I installed were above the waterproofing layer and there was flashing around the mounts. It sounds like your system was done differently. As Butch suggests, pictures would be helpful.
      9 kW solar, 42kWh LFP storage. EV owner since 2012

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      • Teddybear154
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 7

        #4
        It's pouring with rain at moment I will try and get some photos tomorrow

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        • J.P.M.
          Solar Fanatic
          • Aug 2013
          • 14939

          #5
          If it's indeed a solar thermal hot water system, and put in as part of the original construction, it may well be what is sometimes called a "building integrated solar thermal system" or similar names. Some PV systems are/were also done that way. Some solar thermal systems that have the glazing flush with the roof surface might be called a "BIST" system. hose types of systems are not done as much now for reasons similar to what you are experiencing.

          If it was me, I'd take it out. Such systems are built in sumps or at least low spots that can't be easily inspected.

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          • Markyrocks69
            Solar Fanatic
            • Jun 2019
            • 226

            #6
            You sure it's the roof leaking and not water coming out of the panel itself?

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            • Teddybear154
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 7

              #7
              I hope these pictures upload ok. I apologise in advance that they are not great. First is a picture of the solar panel on roof. It is slightly raised so not completely sunk in to roof. The second and third photo I took in loft . This is the wood solar panel seems to be mounted to. The white is actually mould.

              The last picture is where it is actually leaking most, just below the wood that solar panel is mounted too. You can see I have had to lay out plastic trays to try and catch some of the water, emptying them regularly throughout day. Trays are notnlying on plaster board ceiling the is would underneath. Its not stopping all water but it's helping. I have buckets in front bedrooms too.

              It only leaks when rains. So don't think pipes in solar panel are leaking. Previously when they sent some one to fix back in January they told me flashing had gone around solar panel and that's causing leak. A inspector sent by building company came a few weeks ago said same thing.

              I'm not a expert in roofing or solar panel systems, I don't know anything and don't know where it's actually leaking and if they are telling the truth that's why I'm asking advice.

              I can only tell you where I'm seeing water come through.

              Do these pictures help what to you think.

              I can try and take more pictures if helps
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              Last edited by Teddybear154; 09-27-2019, 09:14 AM.

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              • J.P.M.
                Solar Fanatic
                • Aug 2013
                • 14939

                #8
                Originally posted by Teddybear154
                I hope these pictures upload ok. I appologis in advance that they are not great. First is a picture of the solar panel on roof. It is slightly raised so not completely sunk in to roof. The second and third photo I took in loft . This is the wood solar panel seems to be mounted to. The white is actually mould.

                The last picture is where it is actually leaking most just below the wood solar panel in mounted too. You can see I have had to lay out plastic trays to try and catch some of the water, emptying them regularly throughout day. It's not stopping all water but it's helping. I have buckets in front bedrooms too.

                It only leaks when rains. So don't think pipes in solar panel are leaking. Previously when they sent some one to fix back in January they told me flashing had gone around solar panel and that's causing leak. A inspector sent by building company came a few weeks ago said same thing.

                I'm not a expert in roofing or solar panel systems, I don't know anything and don't know where it's actually leaking and if they are telling the truth that's why I'm asking advice.

                I can only tell you where I'm seeing waterwater through.

                Do these pictures help what to you think.

                I can try and take more pictures if helps
                You most likely have a roof leak, perhaps at the solar collector attachment points or plumbing penetrations. Perhaps in the plumbing that's inside the home. Fixing it will probably involve removing the solar collector if only to identify/locate the leak(s).

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                • Teddybear154
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 7

                  #9
                  Thanks J.B.M. do you think I should get a expert in my self before they come to try and assess damage and find out exactly where leak it is.

                  I really don't trust the company that built this house there builder are cowboys. This house was built very badly. I don't trust them to fix problem properly like last time. Im afraid they will just turn up and try and put sealent around again and say it's fixed.

                  We have had non stop problems with this house since we moved in. I will give you some examples. When we moved in on the first evening I gave my children a bath when I pulled plug out after, bathroom light went off. I bought this was strange. I ran down stairs to check fuse box, and heard water gushing. I got to bottom of stairs looked towards kitchen and saw water pouring through ceiling. Kitchen was flooded. I ran back up stairs and put plug back in bath. I removed bath panel thinking they had not connected pipe properl for rain but it was connected fine.

                  I turned off water just incase and had to turn off electricity. We had to go and stay else where. Company sent someone the next day who tried to claim the pipe was blocked, how when we had only just moved in.

                  They sent a drain specialist who put rods down but said It felt strange. He said there could be a blockage so he used a special hose to bast pipe. This caused raw sewage to pour through ceiling in to kitchen and all over boiler. I had to tell at him to stop. The smell was horrible, I can't begin to describe it. He put a camera down then looked at me and said it looks like your house has not been connected to main drainage.

                  I contacted building company fuming. But they did not want to believe us. They eventually sent builder out who dug up our front garden and there was the pipe coming out of our house with a cap on, it had not been connected to main drainage.
                  They connected us up to the main drainage which they should had done in first place when built house. But would not fix all damage that was caused. Boiler in our opinion was recked and had been soaked in raw sewage. They would not replace boiler only replaced a board in it to get it working

                  We had to clean up all the mess and pay for all damage to be fixed. We and our children had to sleep on floor at a friend's house for several weeks until we could move back in when we should have been enjoying our new home.

                  Locks on front and back door were broken when moved in. Windows went bang and shattered when no one nearby and nothing hit it, one day when my children were bathing tiles fell off wall and hit them. I'm not talking about 1 or 2 tiles I'm taling about a whole section of wall of tiles. There are electrical problems, Walls are so soft you can't hang any thing notneven a picture as wall crumbles, radiator s are falling off walls as wall is crumbling where they were fixed to wall. I could go on. This house is a house of horrors.

                  ​​​​​​​We hate this house and wish we could move but can't as no one would buy house. We fill trapped we have tried to get a refund from company who built house but so far have been un successfully.

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                  • Teddybear154
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Sorry for the slightly off topic rant. But hope it helps you understand why we don't trust them
                    any advice much appreciated

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                    • Ampster
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 3650

                      #11
                      If it is still under warranty the building company will have to fix it. That is you best option since in that situation you probably will have little control over their method and means to do that repair.
                      Having installed two solar hot water systems in the past 30 years, I am of the impression that long term there are more cost effective ways to make water hot.
                      9 kW solar, 42kWh LFP storage. EV owner since 2012

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                      • J.P.M.
                        Solar Fanatic
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 14939

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Teddybear154
                        Thanks J.B.M. do you think I should get a expert in my self before they come to try and assess damage and find out exactly where leak it is.
                        You're welcome.

                        Well, like many things, that depends. First of all, expect any charges from an outside vendor to be on your nickel.

                        As Ampster writes, and while I'd be surprised if some form of warranty still exists after 8 years, if still under warranty of some sort - which I'd check out ASAP, it may benefit you to pursue a solution with the builder first. They may well be scumbags, but not allowing them the first (documented) sniff at a solution that might void any warranties such as they may exist.

                        Also, not giving the builder a documented chance to make good might well make any small claims or other legal remedies more difficult/less successful to pursue.

                        Still, independent and documented investigation (but not necessarily immediate repair/remediation - unless an emergency) of the situation by a qualified/licensed professional without/before giving the builder a shot might be informative and also possibly useful if it comes to some litigation.

                        After 8 years, it seems likely that something on the roof or with the collector system will have come loose/leaked. Solar thermal water heaters can be quite robust but they do need some inspection and maintenance. Not a knock, and NOMB or concern, but if you are like most users, such inspection/maint. probably didn't happen. An independent inspection would also help identify such needs.

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                        • Ampster
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 3650

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Teddybear154
                          ......
                          I contacted company who built house as house and roof are still under guarantee.
                          I would persue this as a roof or house guaranty. Your state or jurisdiction my have some statutes regarding developer/builder liability.
                          9 kW solar, 42kWh LFP storage. EV owner since 2012

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                          • xewecan
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2023
                            • 2

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Teddybear154
                            Hi I'm hoping some one can give me some advice. I live in a fairly new build house. House was built 8 years ago. A hot water solar system was installed when house was built. There is a solar panel on roof and it looks like it's the type built in to roof it's not sitting on top of tiles or any thing as far as I can see.

                            last winter roof started leaking around solar panel.
                            I contacted company who built house as house and roof are still under guarantee.

                            They sent some one out back in January to try and fix. They said flashing around solar panel has gone and needs replacing. He put some sealent around as a temporary fix.

                            They were meant to send some one back out to fix properly but have not. Ive been in a fight with them since to get fixed as is still leaking bad.

                            They have finally agreed to come back next weekw and fix properly and fix all damage caused.
                            ​​​​​
                            my question is to replace flashing around solar panel what will this entail via roof replacement annandale va? Will solar panel need to be removed. Will scaffolding likely be needed for this job. Just want to know what to expect.

                            Any advice much appreciated

                            Thanks in advance



                            Hi Not sure if anyone has had experience when solar panels have been fitted and then experience a roof leak ? Had mine fitted this summer and with the heavy rainfall recently I now have a leak coming through one of my bedrooms near where the panels are fitted, which previously never had any issues with rain, assume it's related to maybe a broken tile or something similar during installation ? Anyway have called back the installer who will have a look.

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                            • sdold
                              Moderator
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 1430

                              #15
                              Originally posted by xewecan
                              Hi Not sure if anyone has had experience when solar panels have been fitted and then experience a roof leak ? Had mine fitted this summer and with the heavy rainfall recently I now have a leak coming through one of my bedrooms near where the panels are fitted, which previously never had any issues with rain, assume it's related to maybe a broken tile or something similar during installation ? Anyway have called back the installer who will have a look.
                              Go here, this guy had exactly the same problem a year ago:

                              Hi  Not sure if anyone has had experience when solar panels have been fitted and then experience a roof leak ?

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