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  • Mike90250
    Moderator
    • May 2009
    • 16020

    Solar Movies: Solar Panel Installation Movie

    Link to a you tube video



    commercial install, filmed by homeowner.

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  • Meph
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 8

    #2
    A very nice installation video i must say! Thanks for this!

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    • gheuett
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 4

      #3
      Great Video!

      Thanks so much for posting! I am just starting the research on a solar project for my house. I am reasonably handy so I'm trying to figure out what I can practically do to cut costs and remain within code. Based on what I have researched so far, your system with the micro inverters seems to be the way to go. Your video really pulls it all together well. That has to be fun to see that meter spin backwards!

      Thanks!
      Gib

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      • Shapath
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 22

        #4
        thanks

        Dear Mike,

        Thanks a lot for this video...

        Regards
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        • Naptown
          Solar Fanatic
          • Feb 2011
          • 6880

          #5
          I know the installers in the video

          I have a few questions however about this install.

          At 0:28 what are they bolting to it looks like plywood instead of framing by the way the screws are running in.

          At 2:14 An installer is zip screwing ground lugs to the modules. They make a big deal about how they don't use weeb clips or washers. but zip screws? Doesn't code require a star or weeb washer and a bolt?

          At 4:15 the wires from the modules appear to be stuffed under the module and are sitting on the roofing.

          And finally it appears that they tied into the sub panel? Granted this is only less than 20 amps but there was not enough detail in the video and the volume on my laptop is so low I couldn't hear what the guy was saying.
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          • rs14smith
            Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 48

            #6
            Originally posted by Naptown
            I know the installers in the video

            I have a few questions however about this install.

            At 0:28 what are they bolting to it looks like plywood instead of framing by the way the screws are running in.

            At 2:14 An installer is zip screwing ground lugs to the modules. They make a big deal about how they don't use weeb clips or washers. but zip screws? Doesn't code require a star or weeb washer and a bolt?

            At 4:15 the wires from the modules appear to be stuffed under the module and are sitting on the roofing.

            And finally it appears that they tied into the sub panel? Granted this is only less than 20 amps but there was not enough detail in the video and the volume on my laptop is so low I couldn't hear what the guy was saying.
            I was curious about some of the same things as Naptown, especially the zip ties and the wiring that "appeared from the video" to be just lying under the solar panel as they screwed the solar panel down.
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            • nrgdeville
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 12

              #7
              Well most of the workers are probably not legal so do you think they will also follow code if they don't even know the code. This is a great cost cutting solution. My boss decided to hire some illegal workers and when they showed up on a project at 36kw the homeowner freaked out and told them to get off his land and he cancelled the check which he wrote to our company. I had already been paid my commission and used most of it to pay towards student loans. I now owe my company $2700. Great cost cutting solution huh! I'm not interviewing with another company. However, very cool video.

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              • konstant
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 5

                #8
                I was very curious about solar panel installation.Excellent video about proper solar panel installation .Thanks for sharing this informative information.

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                • inetdog
                  Super Moderator
                  • May 2012
                  • 9909

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Naptown

                  And finally it appears that they tied into the sub panel? Granted this is only less than 20 amps but there was not enough detail in the video and the volume on my laptop is so low I couldn't hear what the guy was saying.
                  Yes, how likely is it that they moved the breaker feeding the sub-panel to far end of the bus in the main panel? The backfeed in the sub panel is a 20 amp double breaker.
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                  • Pipe-Light Inc
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 9

                    #10
                    Great Video and some of the do's and do not's involved....

                    Did not look all that bad to me. The zip ties are a good way to keep a bundled cord wrapped up. At least they used Black ties. Some people dont even know to NOT use clear outside. The main thing I did not like was the conduit. I don't want 3/4 EMT ran 20 foot down the side of my house. Looks terrible. He is in the woods, so does not matter as much, I guess. Plus the pipe they used was the smallest possible. What if he upgrades ? They had the pipe packed, 7 wires I think... You would have a tough time just getting one more through it.

                    I want 3 time that size... A question on the placing. It does seem that he was getting shade there already. I noticed too, they spaced the same top to bottom on the roof. Is it code to mount in the middle ? Can you favor the top of the roof.

                    Also, like pointed out, large, long bolts put into 1/2 plywood. On top of that, the bolts were shouldered. So by the time they went all the way in, no thread was left to hold everything down. That was really bad....

                    I could never allow that here in FLorida. Been through 3 hurricanes. 110 mph..That stuff would be in my yard. They should have marked the bracket locations, then went into the attic and added 2" x 6" to the sdie of each roof rafter. Then bolted..

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                    • Mike 134
                      Solar Fanatic
                      • Jan 2022
                      • 393

                      #11
                      A good how not to do it video. Notice the rail feet are not fastened to the roof joists? Not properly flashed they used the goop it and pray it doesn't leak method. Self tapping screws are not permitted for grounding in my area. Doubtful the junction box was flashed properly on the roof. Poor guy will have water leaking into his house eventually, that is if the wind doesn't tear the panels off the roof first.

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                      • Mason Parsons
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2024
                        • 10

                        #12
                        That's some impressive setup you've got there! It's always inspiring to see homeowners taking the initiative to harness renewable energy. Your attention to detail is commendable.

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                        • Mike 134
                          Solar Fanatic
                          • Jan 2022
                          • 393

                          #13
                          I believe that video was made in 2010 Anyone know how many roof leaks he has had? Otherwise not much to criticize. Roof part is easy to do, then they bring in the A team for the house wiring.

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